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More diagnostics data from desktop
Will Cooke will.cooke at canonical.com
Wed Feb 14 15:22:21 UTC 2018

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Dear all,

We want to be able to focus our engineering efforts on the things that
matter most to our users, and in order to do that we need to get some more
data about sort of setups our users have and which software they are
running on it.

We would like to add a checkbox to the installer, exact wording TBD, but
along the lines of “Send diagnostics information to help improve Ubuntu”.
This would be checked by default.

The result of having that box checked would be:

* Information from the installation would be sent over HTTPS to a service
run by Canonical’s IS team.  This would be saved to disk and sent on first
boot once there is a network connection.  The file containing this data
would be available for the user to inspect.

That data would include:
   * Ubuntu Flavour
   * Ubuntu Version
   * Network connectivity or not
   * CPU family
   * RAM
   * Disk(s) size
   * Screen(s) resolution
   * GPU vendor and model
   * OEM Manufacturer
   * Location (based on the location selection made by the user at
install).  No IP information would be gathered
   * Installation duration (time taken)
   * Auto login enabled or not
   * Disk layout selected
   * Third party software selected or not
   * Download updates during install or not
   * LivePatch enabled or not

* Popcon would be installed.  This will allow us to spot trends in package
usage and help us to  focus on the packages which are of most value to our
users.

* Apport would be configured to automatically send anonymous crash reports
without user interruption.

The results of this data would be made public.  E.g. People would be able
to see that X% of Ubuntu users are based in .de vs Y% in .za.  Z% of our
users run Dell hardware, and so on.
The Ubuntu privacy policy would be updated to reflect this change.

Any user can simply opt out by unchecking the box, which triggers one
simple POST stating, “diagnostics=false”.  There will be a corresponding
checkbox in the Privacy panel of GNOME Settings to toggle the state of this.

And to reiterate, the service which stores this data would *never* store IP
addresses.

We value your feedback and comments!

Cheers, Will
On behalf of the Ubuntu Desktop Team


che poi si puo' scegliere se usare o meno la telemetria in fase di installazione,vogliono semplicemente un SO migliore piu'sicuro e piu'.. PIU'
 
Ragazzi/e, spero di postare questa domanda nel thread giusto, oggi ho installato steam su arch, per giocare a civilizaton V, installato il gioco ma quando vado ad avviarlo non parte. Qualche tempo fa avevo manjaro con steam preinstallato e li lo stesso gioco andava. Il laptop è lo stesso
 
Ragazzi/e, spero di postare questa domanda nel thread giusto, oggi ho installato steam su arch, per giocare a civilizaton V, installato il gioco ma quando vado ad avviarlo non parte. Qualche tempo fa avevo manjaro con steam preinstallato e li lo stesso gioco andava. Il laptop è lo stesso
fai partire steam da riga di comando e guarda gli errori
 
Ok, ho estrapolato questa parte del output di steam da terminale nel momento in cui faccio partire il gioco
Codice:
>>> Adding process 13201 for game ID 8930
GameAction [AppID 8930, ActionID 1] : LaunchApp changed task to WaitingGameWindow with ""
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/zar_marco/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
GameAction [AppID 8930, ActionID 1] : LaunchApp changed task to Completed with ""
Generating new string page texture 138: 256x256, total string texture memory is 1.33 MB
ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libgpg-error.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/zar_marco/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
/home/zar_marco/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Sid Meier's Civilization V/./Civ5XP: Symbol `_ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
/home/zar_marco/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Sid Meier's Civilization V/./Civ5XP: Symbol `_ZTVN10__cxxabiv117__class_type_infoE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
/home/zar_marco/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Sid Meier's Civilization V/./Civ5XP: Symbol `_ZTVN10__cxxabiv121__vmi_class_type_infoE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
>>> Adding process 13202 for game ID 8930
Game update: AppID 8930 "", ProcID 13202, IP 0.0.0.0:0
Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 8930
Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198024038081 [API loaded no]
ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libgpg-error.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(gameoverlayui)/version(20180829200648)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(gameoverlayui)/version(1.0)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(gameoverlayui)/version(1.0)

qui si vedono alcuni errori di librerie, solo che ammetto che ci capisco poco...
 
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Ok, ho estrapolato questa parte del output di steam da terminale nel momento in cui faccio partire il gioco
Codice:
>>> Adding process 13201 for game ID 8930
GameAction [AppID 8930, ActionID 1] : LaunchApp changed task to WaitingGameWindow with ""
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/zar_marco/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
GameAction [AppID 8930, ActionID 1] : LaunchApp changed task to Completed with ""
Generating new string page texture 138: 256x256, total string texture memory is 1.33 MB
ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libgpg-error.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/zar_marco/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
/home/zar_marco/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Sid Meier's Civilization V/./Civ5XP: Symbol `_ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
/home/zar_marco/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Sid Meier's Civilization V/./Civ5XP: Symbol `_ZTVN10__cxxabiv117__class_type_infoE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
/home/zar_marco/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Sid Meier's Civilization V/./Civ5XP: Symbol `_ZTVN10__cxxabiv121__vmi_class_type_infoE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
>>> Adding process 13202 for game ID 8930
Game update: AppID 8930 "", ProcID 13202, IP 0.0.0.0:0
Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 8930
Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198024038081 [API loaded no]
ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libgpg-error.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(gameoverlayui)/version(20180829200648)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(gameoverlayui)/version(1.0)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(gameoverlayui)/version(1.0)

qui si vedono alcuni errori di librerie, solo che ammetto che ci capisco poco...
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam/Troubleshooting#Finding_missing_runtime_libraries
 
alla fine devo comprare una scheda video per devilmaycry5 in fullhd, la scelta è tra amd rx580 8GB e nvidia rtx 2060 6GB; c'è qualche sostanziale differenza nei drivers tra amd e invidia?
 
alla fine devo comprare una scheda video per devilmaycry5 in fullhd, la scelta è tra amd rx580 8GB e nvidia rtx 2060 6GB; c'è qualche sostanziale differenza nei drivers tra amd e invidia?

Hai saltato delle schede video e stai ignorando il processore, la risoluzione grafica del monitor e il suo refresh rate (gli hz).
In mezzo ci sono la RX 590 8gb/gtx 1660 liscia e la gtx 1660 TI.
Come processore hai l' i5 6500?
Qual'è il modello del monitor?
E' il caso prima o poi di avere 16gb di ram.
 
Su Linux ad oggi NVIDIA è superiore a livello driver in gaming. Su phoronix puoi vedere i vari Bench recenti: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=gaming-eojan-2019&num=1
bene, mi hai sdubbiato, devo vincere una vaga idiosincrasia verso intel/nvidia ma già ho l'i5 6500 non vedo perchè non fare l'en plein.
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Hai saltato delle schede video e stai ignorando il processore, la risoluzione grafica del monitor e il suo refresh rate (gli hz).
In mezzo ci sono la RX 590 8gb/gtx 1660 liscia e la gtx 1660 TI.
Come processore hai l' i5 6500?
Qual'è il modello del monitor?
E' il caso prima o poi di avere 16gb di ram.
i5 6500, monitor/tv samsung 4k 65" in firma. 8gigi di ram vanno più che bene.
il mio pensiero: rx590 non ha senso, il mio (performance-)target è la 580 8GB, se devo prendere nvidia spendo sicuramente di più e allora per costi/benefici compro la rtx 2060, tanto più che col driver è messa meglio. col 6500 non ci dovrebbero essere bottleneck sempre che non giochi maxxato a 4k..:sisi:
 
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