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Un saluto a tutti, e auguri di una buona Pasqua.
Ho deciso di creare una nuova discussione in quanto sono arrivato all' esasperazione. Ormai combatto tutti i giorni con delle maledette blu screen, generate da problemi distinti o forse solo apparentemente.
Ma la cosa strana è che questo fenomeno capita quando accendo il pc
o meglio quando è ancora "freddo". Il crash del pc avviene quando inizio a sollecitare la cpu anche lievemente. Dopo il pc funziona alla perfezione, nessun BSOD successivo, neanche dopo un ora di PRime95, LinX, amdoverdrive. E come se il pc dovesse raggiungere un temperatura operativa adeguata, cosa veramente assurda... Ho testato anche le ram con Memtest86+ nessun errore.
Prima però il problema compariva quasi sempre e non solo all' inizio. Poi ho iniziato a modificare manualmente i timing delle ram e tutto è sembrato funzionare alla perfezione. Poi di nuovo blu screens. Poi si è verificata la situazione di cui sopra.
Penso stranamente che possa trattarsi di un malfunzionamento della scheda video oppure dei suoi driver.
La mia config.:
asus m3a32 mpv deluxe
phenom II x6 1100t @ 3,3 Ghz
Corsair Dominator 1066 5-5-5-15-22 2t 2,10v
HD 5850 toxic 1 Gb GDDR5 ATI catalyst 11.4
alimentatore 650 w
Vi allego i file dump.
 
ciao manca il dump puoi cmq scaricare bluescreen viewer e postare l'errore postando uno screen
 
l' ho già fatto...
Con whocrashed pro e con bluescreenview
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Crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
Date/time: 21/04/2011 21:35:40 GMT
Uptime: 00:10:19
Machine:
Bug check name: PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
Bug check code: 0x4E
Bug check parm 1: 0x9A
Bug check parm 2: 0xA84AA
Bug check parm 3: 0x2
Bug check parm 4: 0x0
Probably caused by: ntkrnlmp.exe
Driver description:
Driver product:
Driver company:
OS build: Built by: 7600.16695.amd64fre.win7_gdr.101026-1503
Architecture: x64 (64 bit)
CPU count: 6
Page size: 4096

Bug check description:
This indicates that the page frame number (PFN) list is corrupted.

Comments:
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem. This might be a case of memory corruption. More often memory corruption happens because of software errors in buggy drivers, not because of faulty RAM modules.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.

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Crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\042111-29811-01.dmp
Date/time: 20/04/2011 22:14:26 GMT
Uptime: 00:06:59
Machine:
Bug check name: UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP
Bug check code: 0x7F
Bug check parm 1: 0x8
Bug check parm 2: 0x80050031
Bug check parm 3: 0x6F8
Bug check parm 4: 0xFFFFF80002A97EE4
Probably caused by: ntoskrnl.exe
Driver description: NT Kernel & System
Driver product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Driver company: Microsoft Corporation
OS build: Built by: 7600.16695.amd64fre.win7_gdr.101026-1503
Architecture: x64 (64 bit)
CPU count: 6
Page size: 4096

Bug check description:
This bug check indicates that the Intel CPU generated a trap and the kernel failed to catch this trap.

Comments:

The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.

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Crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\042111-19858-01.dmp
Date/time: 21/04/2011 21:35:40 GMT
Uptime: 00:10:19
Machine:
Bug check name: PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
Bug check code: 0x4E
Bug check parm 1: 0x9A
Bug check parm 2: 0xA84AA
Bug check parm 3: 0x2
Bug check parm 4: 0x0
Probably caused by: ntoskrnl.exe
Driver description: NT Kernel & System
Driver product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Driver company: Microsoft Corporation
OS build: Built by: 7600.16695.amd64fre.win7_gdr.101026-1503
Architecture: x64 (64 bit)
CPU count: 6
Page size: 4096

Bug check description:
This indicates that the page frame number (PFN) list is corrupted.

Comments:
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem. This might be a case of memory corruption. More often memory corruption happens because of software errors in buggy drivers, not because of faulty RAM modules.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.

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Crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\042111-19156-01.dmp
Date/time: 21/04/2011 10:52:50 GMT
Uptime: 01:44:40
Machine:
Bug check name: SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED_M
Bug check code: 0x1000007E
Bug check parm 1: 0xFFFFFFFFC0000005
Bug check parm 2: 0xFFFFF88006A23D78
Bug check parm 3: 0xFFFFF88002391688
Bug check parm 4: 0xFFFFF88002390EF0
Probably caused by: dxgmms1.sys
Driver description: DirectX Graphics MMS
Driver product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Driver company: Microsoft Corporation
OS build: Built by: 7600.16695.amd64fre.win7_gdr.101026-1503
Architecture: x64 (64 bit)
CPU count: 6
Page size: 4096

Bug check description:
This indicates that a system thread generated an exception which the error handler did not catch.

Comments:
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system which cannot be identified at this time.

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E tanti altri ancora.
Purtroppo non riesco a caricare i file mi dà un errore:
"042111-19156-01.zip:
Invio del file fallito.
042111-19858-01.zip:
Invio del file fallito.

"
 
Crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\042111-18283-01.dmp
Date/time: 21/04/2011 06:27:02 GMT
Uptime: 00:04:18
Machine:
Bug check name: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Bug check code: 0xA
Bug check parm 1: 0x0
Bug check parm 2: 0xD
Bug check parm 3: 0x1
Bug check parm 4: 0xFFFFF800030078F7
Probably caused by: ntoskrnl.exe
Driver description: NT Kernel & System
Driver product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Driver company: Microsoft Corporation
OS build: Built by: 7600.16695.amd64fre.win7_gdr.101026-1503
Architecture: x64 (64 bit)
CPU count: 6
Page size: 4096

Bug check description:
This indicates that Microsoft Windows or a kernel-mode driver accessed paged memory at DISPATCH_LEVEL or above.

Comments:
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.

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Crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\041911-19578-01.dmp
Date/time: 19/04/2011 20:35:08 GMT
Uptime: 00:00:16
Machine:
Bug check name:
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Bug check code: 0x50
Bug check parm 1: 0xFFFFF87FFF8CE860
Bug check parm 2: 0x0
Bug check parm 3: 0xFFFFF880018D2BBB
Bug check parm 4: 0x5
Probably caused by:
ntoskrnl.exe
Driver description: NT Kernel & System
Driver product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Driver company: Microsoft Corporation
OS build: Built by: 7600.16695.amd64fre.win7_gdr.101026-1503
Architecture: x64 (64 bit)
CPU count: 6
Page size: 4096

Bug check description:
This indicates that invalid system memory has been referenced.

Comments:
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.


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Crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\041611-17924-01.dmp
Date/time: 16/04/2011 07:52:16 GMT
Uptime: 00:12:01
Machine:
Bug check name:
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Bug check code: 0x50
Bug check parm 1: 0xFFFFFA800CA8813A
Bug check parm 2: 0x0
Bug check parm 3: 0xFFFFFA8004D35DF1
Bug check parm 4: 0x2
Probably caused by:
ntoskrnl.exe
Driver description: NT Kernel & System
Driver product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Driver company: Microsoft Corporation
OS build: Built by: 7600.16695.amd64fre.win7_gdr.101026-1503
Architecture: x64 (64 bit)
CPU count: 6
Page size: 4096

Bug check description:
This indicates that invalid system memory has been referenced.

Comments:
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.


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Crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\041511-16629-01.dmp
Date/time: 15/04/2011 18:01:12 GMT
Uptime: 00:08:41
Machine:
Bug check name:
KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
Bug check code: 0x1E
Bug check parm 1: 0xFFFFFFFFC000001D
Bug check parm 2: 0xFFFFF880010C0A7F
Bug check parm 3: 0x0
Bug check parm 4: 0xFFFFFA8004B4E000
Probably caused by:
fltmgr.sys
Driver description: Gestione filtri file system Microsoft
Driver product: Sistema operativo Microsoft® Windows®
Driver company: Microsoft Corporation
OS build: Built by: 7600.16695.amd64fre.win7_gdr.101026-1503
Architecture: x64 (64 bit)
CPU count: 6
Page size: 4096

Bug check description:
This indicates that a kernel-mode program generated an exception which the error handler did not catch.

Comments:
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system which cannot be identified at this time.


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E tanti altri ancora...
 
Ovviamente ho aggiornato il BIOS della mobo verificando la compatibilità sul sito dell' ASUS alla voce "CPU SUPPORT"
perché am2+ e il procio am3.
A gennaio mi è arrivato e per + di un mese non mi ha dato quasi nessun problema tangibile.
 
Crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
Date/time: 21/04/2011 21:35:40 GMT
Uptime: 00:10:19
Machine:
Bug check name:
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT
Bug check code: 0x4E
Bug check parm 1: 0x9A
Bug check parm 2: 0xA84AA
Bug check parm 3: 0x2
Bug check parm 4: 0x0
Probably caused by:
ntkrnlmp.exe
Driver description: http://www.google.com/search?q=
Driver product: http://www.google.com/search?q=
Driver company: http://www.google.com/search?q=
OS build: Built by: 7600.16695.amd64fre.win7_gdr.101026-1503
Architecture: x64 (64 bit)
CPU count: 6
Page size: 4096

Bug check description:
This indicates that the page frame number (PFN) list is corrupted.

Comments:
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem. This might be a case of memory corruption. More often memory corruption happens because of software errors in buggy drivers, not because of faulty RAM modules.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver which cannot be identified at this time.




Aperto con WINDBG 6.12

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.12.0002.633 AMD64
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Loading Dump File [C:\Users\Apocalypse\Desktop\crash dump 2\042111-29811-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available
Symbol search path is: *** Invalid ***
****************************************************************************
* Symbol loading may be unreliable without a symbol search path. *
* Use .symfix to have the debugger choose a symbol path. *
* After setting your symbol path, use .reload to refresh symbol locations. *
****************************************************************************
Executable search path is: SRV*C:\Symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for ntkrnlmp.exe -
Windows 7 Kernel Version 7600 MP (6 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Built by: 7600.16695.amd64fre.win7_gdr.101026-1503
Machine Name:
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02a0b000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02c48e50
Debug session time: Thu Apr 21 00:14:26.893 2011 (UTC + 2:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:06:59.828
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for ntkrnlmp.exe -
Loading Kernel Symbols
...............................................................
................................................................
.............................
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
.......
*******************************************************************************
* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
*******************************************************************************
Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
BugCheck 7F, {8, 80050031, 6f8, fffff80002a97ee4}
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for mssmbios.sys
***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt!KeSynchronizeExecution+3d59 )
Followup: MachineOwner
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ADDITIONAL_DEBUG_TEXT:
Use '!findthebuild' command to search for the target build information.
If the build information is available, run '!findthebuild -s ; .reload' to set symbol path and load symbols.
MODULE_NAME: nt
FAULTING_MODULE: fffff80002a0b000 nt
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4cc791bd
BUGCHECK_STR: 0x7f_8
CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
CURRENT_IRQL: 0
LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffff80002a7aca9 to fffff80002a7b740
STACK_TEXT:
fffff880`02e8ed68 fffff800`02a7aca9 : 00000000`0000007f 00000000`00000008 00000000`80050031 00000000`000006f8 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
fffff880`02e8ed70 fffff800`02a79172 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KeSynchronizeExecution+0x3d59
fffff880`02e8eeb0 fffff800`02a97ee4 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KeSynchronizeExecution+0x2222
fffff880`0b627000 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!PsGetCurrentThreadWin32ThreadAndEnterCriticalRegion+0x2b14

STACK_COMMAND: kb
FOLLOWUP_IP:
nt!KeSynchronizeExecution+3d59
fffff800`02a7aca9 90 nop
SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 1
SYMBOL_NAME: nt!KeSynchronizeExecution+3d59
FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner
IMAGE_NAME: ntkrnlmp.exe
BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS
Followup: MachineOwner
 
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Le ram funzionano meglio di tutto il sistema XD.........
tutti dicono le ram... è stata la prima cosa che ho scartato. Se fossero state le ram i 20 cicli di LinX mi avrebbere dato problemi ma così non è stato ergo non sono le ram... Idem per memtest 86+.
Fortunatamente sono testardo e non ho cambiato nè le ram nè la mobo...
Erano i maledetti rpm della ventola della cpu, troppo bassi 2600(con pc appena acceso) sopra i 3000 rpm(dopo 10 min di attività) nessun problema... temperature uguali sia a 2600 che a 3000rpm...E' un problema della scheda madre.
Sono ancora sorpreso e incredulo.
 
prova ad aggiornare il firmware della scheda madre sempre che tu non l'abbia già fatto...
 
Già fatto.
Purtroppo la situazione sembra essere peggiorata. Sembrava che avessi capito la causa, attribuendola alla velocità della ventola del procio. Per una settimana tutto è andato OK aspettavo circa 10 minuti prima di lanciare qualche applicazione "pesante" nessun bsod. Ma stamane crash ogni 5 minuti circa. Purtroppo la mia tesi non regge... :mad:
Mi resta da provare a cambiare le ram oppure la scheda madre.
Ma l' idea non mi va proprio.
Mi sorge un dubbio pensandoci bene. Sulla piastra ho due connettori a 4 per l' alimentazione del procio uno dei quali però è coperto da una sorta di coperchio l'altro invece è collegato normalmente. Non è che devo rimuoverlo e collegare anche il secondo cavo?
 
bhe meglio dare qualche watt in più se hai sull'ali la seconda alimentazione collegala e vedi come va il sistema.
 
Per la cronaca: ho eseguito memtest per l' ennesima volta(2h) e non ha trovato nessun errore:doh:. Proverò così il mio ali ne ha due a 4 pin.
Se non va lo stesso provvederò in primis alla sostituzione dell' ali con uno di marca, poi si vede...
Grazie.
 
il pc in idle va bene nessun problema...
i problemi avvengono solo quando inizio a sovraccaricare la cpu ergo potrebbe essere un problema di alimentazione o di sottoalimentazione.
 
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